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		<title>By: Kellsie</title>
		<link>http://millikandaily.com/2009/12/30/gendered-color-dichotomies-r-us/#comment-1273</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 08:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Short, sweet, to the point, FREE-exactly as ionfrmtaion should be!]]></description>
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		<title>By: Corporate Babysitter &#187; Blog Archive &#187; On pink toy microscopes</title>
		<link>http://millikandaily.com/2009/12/30/gendered-color-dichotomies-r-us/#comment-420</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Corporate Babysitter &#187; Blog Archive &#187; On pink toy microscopes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 11:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] pink microscopes and telescopes for girls offered in a Toys &#8216;R Us circular are getting some attention; my favorite discussion was at Pharyngula. From Minnesota&#8217;s own PZ Meyers: There is a message [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] pink microscopes and telescopes for girls offered in a Toys &#8216;R Us circular are getting some attention; my favorite discussion was at Pharyngula. From Minnesota&#8217;s own PZ Meyers: There is a message [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DuWayne</title>
		<link>http://millikandaily.com/2009/12/30/gendered-color-dichotomies-r-us/#comment-416</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DuWayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 03:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would recommend going to Amazon for one.  The Celestron 44302 is a great tool for the price, but would probably be too touchy for a four year old.  It is a digital hand held and moderately rugged - a friend of ours has one and he has used the hell out of it.  Downside is ease of use and lack of portability.(abt $60)  Eldest&#039;s first was a Meade 900x beginner microscope 28 piece kit - it is pretty rugged and includes standard supplies to teach kids basic slide making.(abt $30)  We currently use the Vivitar microview 1200x, which is not quite as rugged and also not really as much the beginner scope - more powerful and more touchy.(abt $40)  We have a friend who had the Smithsonian 900x, which is pretty much the same as the Meade, excepting - I would assume - it probably cost more.  Not in stock on Amazon, so I am not sure of the price.  

Given my druthers, we would have the Galileo 1200x, which is pretty much the one that I had as a child - rugged as hell, powerful and while it is not as simplified as the Meade, it isn&#039;t as touchy as the Vivitar.  But that one is fifty bucks which unfortunately is more than this student can afford.  

In all honesty, there aren&#039;t really any good scopes that would be easy to use and rugged enough for most four year olds.  The advantage of the Celestron is that it is digital and therefore the child doesn&#039;t have to figure out the closing of one eye, to look into it (most four year olds I have known have a lot of trouble with that.  The Galileo is handy for that, because it comes with the photo attachment that functions as a basic screen, but that is somewhat unsatisfactory as far as the image quality goes.  Stereo microscopes are probably the best, but I haven&#039;t actually seen many for much under $200.  Learning Services has a student stereo microscope by Ken-A-Vision (never heard of) for $75, but I am skeptical of one at that low of a price.  At the same time, it is advertised as a student scope, which may mean it is rather heavy duty.

Honestly, my recommendation would be to go for the Galileo if it is in your price range, because it is a really sturdy piece of equipment and comes with the photo attachment.  Short of that, the Meade is pretty damned sturdy too and I am sure you could find a photo attachment - or could look for a digital viewer, which may not be too hard on the wallet - though if you can do that, I would go for the Galileo to attach it to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would recommend going to Amazon for one.  The Celestron 44302 is a great tool for the price, but would probably be too touchy for a four year old.  It is a digital hand held and moderately rugged &#8211; a friend of ours has one and he has used the hell out of it.  Downside is ease of use and lack of portability.(abt $60)  Eldest&#8217;s first was a Meade 900x beginner microscope 28 piece kit &#8211; it is pretty rugged and includes standard supplies to teach kids basic slide making.(abt $30)  We currently use the Vivitar microview 1200x, which is not quite as rugged and also not really as much the beginner scope &#8211; more powerful and more touchy.(abt $40)  We have a friend who had the Smithsonian 900x, which is pretty much the same as the Meade, excepting &#8211; I would assume &#8211; it probably cost more.  Not in stock on Amazon, so I am not sure of the price.  </p>
<p>Given my druthers, we would have the Galileo 1200x, which is pretty much the one that I had as a child &#8211; rugged as hell, powerful and while it is not as simplified as the Meade, it isn&#8217;t as touchy as the Vivitar.  But that one is fifty bucks which unfortunately is more than this student can afford.  </p>
<p>In all honesty, there aren&#8217;t really any good scopes that would be easy to use and rugged enough for most four year olds.  The advantage of the Celestron is that it is digital and therefore the child doesn&#8217;t have to figure out the closing of one eye, to look into it (most four year olds I have known have a lot of trouble with that.  The Galileo is handy for that, because it comes with the photo attachment that functions as a basic screen, but that is somewhat unsatisfactory as far as the image quality goes.  Stereo microscopes are probably the best, but I haven&#8217;t actually seen many for much under $200.  Learning Services has a student stereo microscope by Ken-A-Vision (never heard of) for $75, but I am skeptical of one at that low of a price.  At the same time, it is advertised as a student scope, which may mean it is rather heavy duty.</p>
<p>Honestly, my recommendation would be to go for the Galileo if it is in your price range, because it is a really sturdy piece of equipment and comes with the photo attachment.  Short of that, the Meade is pretty damned sturdy too and I am sure you could find a photo attachment &#8211; or could look for a digital viewer, which may not be too hard on the wallet &#8211; though if you can do that, I would go for the Galileo to attach it to.</p>
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		<title>By: DuWayne</title>
		<link>http://millikandaily.com/2009/12/30/gendered-color-dichotomies-r-us/#comment-412</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DuWayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 01:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My eldest really wanted a CD player of his very own at one point when he was rather small and prone to abusing things (I will note that money is a serious issue).  One of my clients had a box going to goodwill, that she suggested I peruse for books (awesome pop-up book of the solar system, including a brief history with excellent pop-up explosions and implosions) and there was a rugged, child friendly, pepto-bysmol pink CD player.  Three year old boy loved it and kept on loving it until he got into my toolbox at four and managed to get it apart - but could not reassemble it (unlike his leap pad, which was disassembled and successfully reassembled a week later with a screwdriver he had squirreled away, unnoticed.  He was truly traumatized when I had to inform him that he had wrecked the lens and that not even I could fix the CD player.

But then he also grew up often seeing papa lying around the house in a skirt and sometimes wearing one in public.  One of our best friends before we moved to Portland was Star, a black lab who lives with a male born woman.  One of the people who worked on my roofing crew for a couple of summers was a woman.  He played with Polly Pocket with his mother.  He also willing to play pretty pink princess with one of his best friends, as well as playing archeologist and construction worker with the same girl friend.  It is only since he got into regular public school (head start didn&#039;t manage it) that he has become somewhat gender conscientious and that as much because we have tried to ensure that he doesn&#039;t get picked on - he still occasionally likes to put on nail polish, but pretty pink is now gauche.  He is also rather prone to adding Poly Pocket to his little armies.

I am absolutely certain that if the only option he had for a microscope was a pink one, he would totally rock with it.  He really loves having one (not actually pink, because they are cheap now) and I am pretty sure if it were pink with little hearts and ponies painted on, he would deal with it - he might be inclined to paint machine guns and the like on with the ponies, but he is more concerned about having the equipment he wants, than he is about what it looks like.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My eldest really wanted a CD player of his very own at one point when he was rather small and prone to abusing things (I will note that money is a serious issue).  One of my clients had a box going to goodwill, that she suggested I peruse for books (awesome pop-up book of the solar system, including a brief history with excellent pop-up explosions and implosions) and there was a rugged, child friendly, pepto-bysmol pink CD player.  Three year old boy loved it and kept on loving it until he got into my toolbox at four and managed to get it apart &#8211; but could not reassemble it (unlike his leap pad, which was disassembled and successfully reassembled a week later with a screwdriver he had squirreled away, unnoticed.  He was truly traumatized when I had to inform him that he had wrecked the lens and that not even I could fix the CD player.</p>
<p>But then he also grew up often seeing papa lying around the house in a skirt and sometimes wearing one in public.  One of our best friends before we moved to Portland was Star, a black lab who lives with a male born woman.  One of the people who worked on my roofing crew for a couple of summers was a woman.  He played with Polly Pocket with his mother.  He also willing to play pretty pink princess with one of his best friends, as well as playing archeologist and construction worker with the same girl friend.  It is only since he got into regular public school (head start didn&#8217;t manage it) that he has become somewhat gender conscientious and that as much because we have tried to ensure that he doesn&#8217;t get picked on &#8211; he still occasionally likes to put on nail polish, but pretty pink is now gauche.  He is also rather prone to adding Poly Pocket to his little armies.</p>
<p>I am absolutely certain that if the only option he had for a microscope was a pink one, he would totally rock with it.  He really loves having one (not actually pink, because they are cheap now) and I am pretty sure if it were pink with little hearts and ponies painted on, he would deal with it &#8211; he might be inclined to paint machine guns and the like on with the ponies, but he is more concerned about having the equipment he wants, than he is about what it looks like.</p>
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		<title>By: Tamara</title>
		<link>http://millikandaily.com/2009/12/30/gendered-color-dichotomies-r-us/#comment-411</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tamara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 23:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish the world was such that I could give the pink microscope to a (transgender) little boy I know who would really appreciate it...

Ooooh, how about a white microscope and a set of craft paints?  That would be really cool...I wanna decorate a microscope with renderings of Ediacarans.

But seriously, know where I can get a sturdy dissecting scope for a nine year old and a four year old?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish the world was such that I could give the pink microscope to a (transgender) little boy I know who would really appreciate it&#8230;</p>
<p>Ooooh, how about a white microscope and a set of craft paints?  That would be really cool&#8230;I wanna decorate a microscope with renderings of Ediacarans.</p>
<p>But seriously, know where I can get a sturdy dissecting scope for a nine year old and a four year old?</p>
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		<title>By: Arikia</title>
		<link>http://millikandaily.com/2009/12/30/gendered-color-dichotomies-r-us/#comment-409</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arikia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 15:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah. If I was a kid and someone gave me a pink microscope, I would probably break it way faster than the alternative because I wouldn&#039;t take it as seriously. 

Gonna have to disagree with the &quot;always fashionable&quot; part though, unless it&#039;s being worn by Pascale.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. If I was a kid and someone gave me a pink microscope, I would probably break it way faster than the alternative because I wouldn&#8217;t take it as seriously. </p>
<p>Gonna have to disagree with the &#8220;always fashionable&#8221; part though, unless it&#8217;s being worn by Pascale.</p>
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		<title>By: CL</title>
		<link>http://millikandaily.com/2009/12/30/gendered-color-dichotomies-r-us/#comment-408</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 05:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To me, the pink toys only reinforce the idea that girls can&#039;t grow up to be scientists.  The pink microscopes look nothing like the real ones that scientists use, unlike the others—the boys can pretend that they&#039;re real scientists, but the girls only get a tacky, &quot;girlified&quot; version that would look ridiculous out of a little girl&#039;s toy chest.  I would never have thought of myself as a scientist while using that thing, since it looks like a silly little girl&#039;s toy.  It&#039;s like that for a lot of girls&#039; stuff: always pink, always fashionable, but never practical.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, the pink toys only reinforce the idea that girls can&#8217;t grow up to be scientists.  The pink microscopes look nothing like the real ones that scientists use, unlike the others—the boys can pretend that they&#8217;re real scientists, but the girls only get a tacky, &#8220;girlified&#8221; version that would look ridiculous out of a little girl&#8217;s toy chest.  I would never have thought of myself as a scientist while using that thing, since it looks like a silly little girl&#8217;s toy.  It&#8217;s like that for a lot of girls&#8217; stuff: always pink, always fashionable, but never practical.</p>
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		<title>By: Arikia</title>
		<link>http://millikandaily.com/2009/12/30/gendered-color-dichotomies-r-us/#comment-407</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arikia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OH Jesus, I just read this through and there are so many typos. I can&#039;t wait to have editors again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH Jesus, I just read this through and there are so many typos. I can&#8217;t wait to have editors again.</p>
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		<title>By: leigh</title>
		<link>http://millikandaily.com/2009/12/30/gendered-color-dichotomies-r-us/#comment-406</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[leigh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i agree that the differential versions of toys for the sexes isn&#039;t getting us anywhere. establishing that we somehow need different/separate equipment is not what is going to teach girls that science is something they can do just as well as the boys.

and to take it a step further, a pink microscope is nothing when compared to a real asskicking female scientist role model.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree that the differential versions of toys for the sexes isn&#8217;t getting us anywhere. establishing that we somehow need different/separate equipment is not what is going to teach girls that science is something they can do just as well as the boys.</p>
<p>and to take it a step further, a pink microscope is nothing when compared to a real asskicking female scientist role model.</p>
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		<title>By: Arikia</title>
		<link>http://millikandaily.com/2009/12/30/gendered-color-dichotomies-r-us/#comment-405</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arikia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Word up Rocket Scientista. Thanks for the comment! I know, people do like pink.... If my mom decorated my room with taxidermy, I would probably like dead animals now, and be really fucked up. Just sayin... 

It&#039;s hard to distinguish what we like because we really truly like it and what we like because we&#039;ve been manipulated. I don&#039;t have the answers for how to tease out which is which, but it is going to start with me offering any future offspring of mine, or any other kids I encounter for that matter, a wide variety of options (like my mom offered me when I was little) and let them pick instead of preselecting things based on gender.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Word up Rocket Scientista. Thanks for the comment! I know, people do like pink&#8230;. If my mom decorated my room with taxidermy, I would probably like dead animals now, and be really fucked up. Just sayin&#8230; </p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to distinguish what we like because we really truly like it and what we like because we&#8217;ve been manipulated. I don&#8217;t have the answers for how to tease out which is which, but it is going to start with me offering any future offspring of mine, or any other kids I encounter for that matter, a wide variety of options (like my mom offered me when I was little) and let them pick instead of preselecting things based on gender.</p>
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